Hour Rule: Teutonic Tuesday

"Jobjoris" (Jobjoris) 10/18/2016 at 05:23 • Filed to: Hour Rule, Teutonic Tuesday

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Well, there’s some Spaghetti in there as well. Last weekend probably was this year’s last trip with the Porker before winter comes in. Let’s hope not.

duurtlang > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 05:47

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How’s the 2002 coming along? I haven’t seen an update in forever.

Jobjoris > duurtlang 10/18/2016 at 05:51

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It’s ON IT’S WHEELS AGAIN! Back to the shop in november. Kabelboom, retourleiding brandstoftank and other small stuff.

shop-teacher > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 06:43

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Such a pretty car.

Jobjoris > shop-teacher 10/18/2016 at 06:58

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Danke. That 600 is amazing as well (or did you mean that one?) and will run all the way through winter. If the owner doesn’t drive it for 4 weeks he’ll get in trouble (brakes will get stuck, thing like that).

shop-teacher > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 07:01

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The 600 is lovely too, but I was referring to the Porker :)

Do they use road salt or beer juice on the roads over there? That stuff kills everything nice.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 07:02

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The 600 could be a bit teutonic too, depending on where it was built.

Too bad the season is over, I’ll miss the sound of my boss’ 1975 911, which he stores at the office.

Jobjoris > shop-teacher 10/18/2016 at 07:13

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Road salt. The horror.

Jobjoris > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 10/18/2016 at 07:17

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It’s a true Spaghetti Vreter . Maybe we’ll see some other good days, let’s hope for the best. And prepare for the worst.

Which 911 would that be, a 2.7 “G”?

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 07:32

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Let’s hope so!

A 2.3 T Coupé according to the license plate information, though it might be a 1974 which was first registered in 1975. But I haven’t had a good look at it, since he kind of hides it.

Jobjoris > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 10/18/2016 at 07:47

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A 2.4 that would be, it’s a 2341 cc but Posche themselves called it a 2.4. The T was the least powerfull back then ;-) Still highly desirable!

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 08:07

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Ah interesting, it sounds great for a base model. Ofcourse it is highly desirable, every aircooled Porsche is.

Jobjoris > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 10/18/2016 at 08:12

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Are you sure? I think I’d pass on a 914 1.7, that one was a bit under-powered...

shop-teacher > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 08:42

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Yep. They recently started using beet juice around here as well. Supposedly that stuff is even worse, it gets up into crevices where you can’t wash it out. They call it car-be-gone in places that they’ve been using it for a while.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 08:48

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Still a Porsche right.....(depending on who you ask)

Jobjoris > shop-teacher 10/18/2016 at 09:01

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Yeah, I heard about that. In the promised land (Austria) they use gravel as it can get so cold the salt doesn’t even work. In combination with wintertires that’s perfect. We can’t use it as there’s fear our sewer system can’t cope with that.

Jobjoris > BvdV - The Dutch Engineer 10/18/2016 at 09:02

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Still desirable, just not highly ;-)

shop-teacher > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 09:41

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It will at times get cold enough that the salt doesn’t work here as well. I think that’s why the beet juice has been getting used some.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 15:53

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Very nice. Where’d you meet the Fiat? Rear engines FTW!

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/18/2016 at 17:34

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The Battle of the rear-engined axis-of-evil brothers. It’s of a “neighbor” of my business unit. He actually drives it year-round as non-usage ruins it. He just mounted a new trans, does ALL the work himself. Great guy.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/18/2016 at 21:56

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Man, I’m beginning to think there are less people without a cool classic car over there than with them. He does sound like a great guy. The car seems immaculate, at least the back half. Non-usage ruins all cars. I’m waiting to see you do this with the JobPorker on your next trip to the Alps.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/19/2016 at 03:13

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I did use the Z4 for that all the time, the 911 I’d rather not somehow.

The 600 needs work to be done in the interior. The left door shows only cardboard, no vinyl, that kind of stuff.

And I just know how to run into these guys, that’s all ;-)

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/20/2016 at 01:46

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Awesome photo. I can imagine it’s much less nerve wracking to drive in those conditions in a Z4.

There’s not much interior in a 600. He should get it done. They’re really pretty all done up.

You have a nose for old steel. That’s a good trait and will come in handy when I come to visit. Which might be in the spring, actually. Just in time for when they all get released again.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/20/2016 at 04:22

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It was awesome, chasing that 4wd Cherokee of Simon.

Awesome! Any special occasion? Still planning it with your father?

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/21/2016 at 01:34

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That looks like fun. Could Simon get away from you?

Yeah, my father wants to do the WWI battlefield thing, so I was thinking I could swing by Breda at the end of the trip and knock some doors in. Or, maybe before my father gets there depending on when my room is ready.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/21/2016 at 03:20

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Not in a million years he could. Well, at the parking lot covered in snow he could.

Cool. Your room is ready. 25/26 of March there’s an Oppo Euro meet at Spa, maybe you can use that as a target.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/21/2016 at 03:34

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That would be fun. I’d like to see Spa. They have a cool museum there, don’t they? I don’t know what my father’s thinking, but I’ll keep you informed.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/21/2016 at 04:54

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We start at AutoWorld, the Bruxelles Museum. Then Spa. Then... The Ring!

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/23/2016 at 22:47

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I can’t wait. That’s exactly the kind of itinerary I want. Don’t forget the Louwman.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/24/2016 at 02:54

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I’ve gotten new free-tickets in the mail for/from Louwman’s. No worries.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/24/2016 at 03:56

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Good. We should also just ride around looking in people’s garages. That seems like it would be as good as any museum.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/24/2016 at 04:56

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I know a few you’d be impressed by...

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/25/2016 at 02:05

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I bet. Within walking distance even.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/25/2016 at 03:01

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Went out this weekend again to check out the new office.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/25/2016 at 23:22

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That’s beautiful. It’s like one of your LaLD shots. Are you definitely moving to that building?

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/26/2016 at 04:25

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Yep. Sealing the deal tomorrow.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/27/2016 at 02:13

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Congratulations. That’s exciting. When is the move?

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/27/2016 at 03:27

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In January. First we have to redecorate a bit.

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/27/2016 at 15:29

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Are you keeping the table? Also, the 2002 would make a great showpiece for the lobby.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/27/2016 at 16:15

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Are you kidding? We’re figuring out how to get it 5cm of the ground to replace the carpet: 10 man are not enough to replace it. Really.

The door ain’t big enough to handle the 02...

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/28/2016 at 03:01

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Wow, that’s a pain in the ass. You’ll need a crane, or a couple engine hoists. That reminds me of this hot pepper they have in Madagascar whose name translates as “Ten men can’t eat one.”

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/28/2016 at 04:55

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Harry had one smaller piece of that teller-bullet-proof-window laying around. That one I couldn’t even move. Stuff of legends. As is Madagascar hahaha.

We’ll probably lift the table with some jacks. Or work around it. Or just leave it the way it is, it’ll be my room anyway ;-)

Jonee > Jobjoris 10/30/2016 at 21:11

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You should try and build some kind of hydraulic joist that will tip it over on its side in an emergency so you can hide behind just in case machine gun wielding commandos break in. You can never be too careful.

I tried a little of that pepper. And I mean the tiniest piece. It was like putting Napalm in your mouth.

Jobjoris > Jonee 10/31/2016 at 04:17

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Awesome idea. I’ll produce that in my shed, made a picture of it yesterday, probably - again - the last time I’m taking the Porker there this year.

Haha. I’m surprised you tried Napalm in your mouth in the first place!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/01/2016 at 00:48

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That’s a nice picture. You’ve really fallen in love with the Dutch angle. That looks like a great shed. I could really use that much room and light. Looks like you could squeeze a third car in there up on the shelf.

Well, I do like spicy food, so...

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/01/2016 at 04:24

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And I’ve got you to thank for that! Dutch angle makes all kinds of ruling for photography easy to implement. Rule of thirds for instance. No third car. There’s a Ducati next to the Alfa but I’m glad that one leaves when the BMW is ready: The Alfa is quite a bit longer, it barely fits all!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/02/2016 at 14:20

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Oh, I didn’t notice that was an Alfa. Who does it belong to? It’s that much longer than the ‘02? Interesting. Those BMW’s are kind of stubby, I guess.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/02/2016 at 19:22

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That’s Eric’s, the guy who’s helping me out with the 02 (and has a lift). Probably a next project. It is very bad though, don’t zoom in too much ;-)

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/03/2016 at 01:53

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I think all Alfas are either mint restored, or complete basket cases. And it doesn’t take much for the mint ones to become basket cases again.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/03/2016 at 06:06

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Haha, true. But this one had a real hard life. Was driven all year long, even hard winters. By his girlfriend. Hahaha.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/05/2016 at 03:10

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Wow, that’s actually really cool. Sounds like a heck of a gal. How long has it been out of service?

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/05/2016 at 12:04

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4 Years now. After that she drove a 320i touring (E30) that ended after two years already (corrosion). Now she’s driving something right up your alley: A Multipla diesel!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/07/2016 at 01:04

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Wow, great taste in cars. Too bad she drives them into the ground. A diesel Multipla sounds like either the perfect car, or a nightmare. It’d be like if we got a Pacer diesel. Which gives me a great idea for a terrible engine swap after I build my rotary Pacer. How long did she have the Alfa? I went to the annual local French and Italian car show today and saw some nice and well used Alfas. I’ll post my pictures at some point.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/07/2016 at 03:25

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She only drove it for like 2 years but... It was Eric’s at first. So it’s been in the family for decades.

AWESOME! Any Panhards? Any DB’s? ANY MATRAS????

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/08/2016 at 01:09

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It deserves to be refreshed then. Seeing all those Alfas yesterday was so great. They all should be on the road.

Yes. Sort of. Sadly, no, but you saw the R.B. Djet. There usually is a couple Matras. These have all been there in the past.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/08/2016 at 03:49

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I’d get a Bagheera over a Murena but the rear of that Murena is such a clean masterpiece! I like how they re-use the French plates!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/09/2016 at 01:26

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The Murena is growing on me. I think the Bagheera is overall cleaner looking, but the 80's car has charm. The Djet is still the winner here, though. I love when people do that with the European plates. You have to let people know the car came across the pond.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/09/2016 at 03:51

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Yeah, the Murena certainly has some advantages over the Bagheera (engines, quality). But it’s the easy way out .

Want me to get you some old French Plates for the LeCar? Or should it be authentic?

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/10/2016 at 00:11

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Totally the easy way out. Murenas are for wimps, I always say.

I like to keep it authentically Le Car. I wish I had the 70's blue California plates.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/10/2016 at 04:52

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Can’t you get those blue plates anymore? We’re allowed to use our old blue plates if the car is old.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/11/2016 at 00:43

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Yeah, the plates stay with the car, so if your car is old enough to have had blue plates and still has them, that’s fine. But, the Le Car came from Oregon, so I had to get new California plates when I registered it here. I think for very old cars, if you find old plates that match the year of your car, you can have them put on your car, but I don’t think that applies to the 1970's. Maybe those numbers that went out of circulation got reused, or something.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/11/2016 at 03:58

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Oregon? That’s quite the drive! Do you need a temporary registration or something to get it to Cali?

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/11/2016 at 11:51

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It didn’t run when I got it, so it came on a trailer. You can get a temporary “moving permit,” though, if you do want to drive a car back from out of state.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/11/2016 at 14:21

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The best moving permits are the German ones, they even cover insurance!

Bad news though: ROBERT VAUGHN!!!!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/14/2016 at 03:25

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I KNOW! I’m so sad. Did I tell you I met him once? Did you see my post?

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/14/2016 at 05:10

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Nope, you just shared your John Voight experience. I just did! Share that story!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/14/2016 at 22:38

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He used to live in my part of Connecticut and an old friend of mine’s parents actually bought some property from him. So one day I went to their house and just as I got to the front door Robert fucking Vaughn walks out. So I shout, “Robert fucking Vaughn!!!” in amazement, and he just smiled, shook my hand, patted me on the shoulder and got in his car like a badass. He was pretty short, but still a badass. Kind of a similar story as my John Voight trip come to think of it.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/15/2016 at 03:09

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You’re leaving out one important fact: WHAT KIND OF CAR DID ROBERT FUCKING VAUGHN DRIVE????

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/15/2016 at 03:26

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I managed to snap a picture of it from an upstairs window as he drove away. He wasn’t too happy about that.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/15/2016 at 04:44

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HAHA, now what is that?

And do share what he did actually drive!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/16/2016 at 01:37

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That’s his Piranha from Man From U.N.C.L.E. I just realized I missed that one in my post.

He was a Lincoln guy. I’m pretty sure it was a, like, ‘89 Town Car. He went for something much classier in his younger days.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/16/2016 at 03:17

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That Piranha is great! If you think that Continental is classy better check this girl with that Piranha!

What a sweet little gun!

Husky made one, this is another one for Jaap though: we need a high quality model of this one!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/16/2016 at 03:23

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I love that picture. I wonder who that lady is? Her hair is amazing. We should find a place for her in the movie. Or, is that Patty in one of the sequels when she has to go into action?

The car is awesome. I think you could those as a kit. I’d love to see a nice, detailed model. Those doors have to open. But, I like that the boys are in that one.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/16/2016 at 05:06

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I have no clue. I had hopes you knew as you are way more into Man from U.N.C.L.E., or American series in general, than I am. If it was one of “our” girls it would have to be either Patty’s mum or Furma though.

A kit. Hmmmm... I don’t need another hobby!

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/17/2016 at 01:19

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That could be a promo photo for the kit car. Apparently AMT reissued them not long ago, so I think you can get one. They’re Corvair powered. That could totally be Furma, yeah. She looks like she has Han Solo’s gun. Maybe that movie is sci fi and takes place in the future.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/17/2016 at 03:10

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Haha, awesome. You should get such a kit car!

What story do we have for a SciFi Fur Coat: Femme Fatale ?

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/19/2016 at 22:08

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That’s a good question. They could fight aliens. Or, some evil future corporation that’s trying to replace the world’s leaders with robot copies that they control.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/20/2016 at 03:12

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Couldn’t we try and adopt a bit of the story of “V”? First the aliens come in peace to eventually eat us? And Pixie and Patty’s dad knew this all the time. Of course.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/20/2016 at 04:21

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Damn that Judge Mega Pixel. What a jerk. How’d he get in contact with the aliens? Will these eat our small, furry pets, too? That was my favorite part of V .

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/20/2016 at 05:14

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I think him getting neglected in the communications with the aliens made him suspect foul play in the first place! The aliens eat everything except for pigs. They respect those somehow. Not sure about that angle yet though.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/22/2016 at 02:21

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Wait, what? He tried to contact the aliens and they ignored them, so he knew they were there? That’s interesting logic, but sounds like the kind of thing the Judge would come up with. Pigs don’t get enough respect, so I’m with them on that one. I had a neighbor who had a pig once. We became good friends, me and the pig. I used to feed it mints through the fence, and it would chew it and then suck in air through its mouth because I think it liked the cool minty freshness. One day it wasn’t there, so I’m afraid it became pork chops and bacon at some point.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/22/2016 at 04:41

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No, he was one of the first to welcome them as he spotted them very early on with his homebuilt SETI equipment. But the Aliens went for the guys with the real power (men with goofy hair-do). So he didn’t trust him.

Good story on the pig. I love pigs. Visited the bay of pigs as well but that wasn’t that impressive. Lately I’ve been heavily reading on the Falklands again, as that was the first war I actually knew/remember was going on being a kid. One impressive story I read was the Argentinian Operation Algeciras.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/23/2016 at 02:36

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Ooooh. I see. So, the Judge is on our side on this one. He probably knows the only way to stop them, too. But, when he gets taken captive by the aliens, it’s up to Patty to put his plan into action.

I remember the Falklands War, too, but I really don’t know anything about what actually happened. I’d be interested to know more. I also remember when we invaded the tiny island of Granada for one of the shortest wars we were ever involved with. That was around the same time. I think there was a Clint Eastwood movie about it.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/23/2016 at 04:48

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Yep. And it’s that difficult Patty needs Pixie, Fur Coat, Fury Coat and even Kung Fury to set the Judge free. I imagine the Judge driving this btw.

Or doesn’t that fit our product placement policy?

What happened in the Falk Lands? Well, Argentina wasn’t going well, the generals decided to boost a bit of nationalism and occupied the Falklands which were protected by like 26 UK Marines. All assuming the UK would never be able to reconquer the islands due to logistics as it is what, 10k miles away? They just didn’t take into account the UK was led by a woman. We all know for being called the Iron Lady. It was a massive operation with bomber flights from Ascension (still 5K miles away) with a whole bunch of tankers flying along with the Vulcans. 11 Tankers for 2 Vulcans, 8 refills. WATCH THIS (if you have the time):

And the war led to the most amazing Newsweek cover ever. EVER.

First time I saw that Eastwood movie (Heartbreak Ridge?) I thought Granada was some sort of fake country. As there was a Ford Granada. And a city in Spain already named like that.

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/25/2016 at 01:49

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I could totally see the Judge driving the Loewy Jag for some reason. Maybe we could do a special run of Wanke r l recreations of that car for the product placement. A fiberglass body and a rotary engine and that could be a cool car. Maybe Pixie should drive the other Loewy XKE. It’s too flashy for Patty.

Un fortunately it burned to a crisp, so we’d have to do another recreation.

I will watch that. I was aware of the setup to the war, but not really familiar with any of the action. But, I do remember that magazine. Although, I don’t think I noticed the badass way that carrier had a ramp.

Yeah, Heartbreak Ridge . I remember one of my teachers coming into our classroom shaking his head and announcing that we had invaded Granada. I had no idea what that meant, but he certainly found it absurd. It was most definitely a real thing that happened. It was in response to a coup of a guy that had lead a coup a few years before. We installed a democracy, so I think the Granadans are glad we invaded. They still celebrate it.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/25/2016 at 06:59

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There’s only one car for Patty.

The carrier had that ramp for those amazing Sea Harriers. VTOL just took too much fuel.

What had Granada to offer? Oil?????

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/29/2016 at 02:53

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You know, I kind of think Patty would look good in this.

Since I associate the Elan so much with Mrs. Peel.

That’s interesting. I remember seeing footage of those things taking off from that ramp now.

It’s called the Island of Spices. So, lots of nutmeg. My other home state of Connecticut is actually called the “Nutmeg State,” so I’m kind of offended they felt Granada was so valuable. We never invaded Connecticut as far as I can recall.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/29/2016 at 03:49

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Totally, but for maximum effect, having her 1.5 meters of hair blowing in the wind and fascinate all that is masculine, she’ll need a drop-top. And she knows. But I do get the Emma Peel-factor. So, what about...

Nutmeg. How can you export/make money of shooting a ball through a defender’s legs????

Jonee > Jobjoris 11/30/2016 at 01:55

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Yeah, there you go. Perfect. And there’s a comparable car for every decade.

Although the WWII version is a little scary.

!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

It’s Connecticutians signature move. No one does it like them.

Jobjoris > Jonee 11/30/2016 at 04:12

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Yeah, enough generations of those. I imagine that R107 being used on location in Texas. And I’m sure Patty wears a dirndl and braids in that second one. To make it look less scary.

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/01/2016 at 02:24

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We may have to have Dallas as a location for that 80's set movie. I think she steals it from Goering and escapes in her dirndl and braids at top speed. What an awesome scene.

Jobjoris > Jonee 12/01/2016 at 03:35

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Chased by German Wehrmacht soldiers in their BMW sidekarts. Of to the Swiss border. I see it. I really do. That Goering guy is a creep!

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/06/2016 at 21:43

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With her lover engaged in an air battle in his Mustang with a Messerschmitt overhead. Exciting stuff. All the while Göring shaking his fist at them and screaming pointless orders.

Jobjoris > Jonee 12/07/2016 at 02:40

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Maybe we should have her lose that lover to the Germans. Of course not if I play that part. Goering is a mad man. Fist of Iron. “Rausettig. Sauerkraut!”

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/08/2016 at 15:08

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That would add some pathos and tragedy to the story. Maybe she just thinks he’s been killed, but it turns out he was captured and she has to rescue him. And, in an Inglourious Basterds -like twist, she ends up liberating Auschwitz in the process. That could lead to another steamy love scene for you two.

“Schnitzel! Autobahn!”

Jobjoris > Jonee 12/08/2016 at 18:26

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Well, Auschwitz doesn’t really appeal to a feel good movie. A run up to Berchtesgaden could be visually appealing as well. Bush’ Running up that hill on the back ground.

“Gib mein Fahrrad zurück!”

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/12/2016 at 15:33

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Yeah, a sneak attack on the Eagle’s Nest would look terrific. Excellent scenery that would bring to mind some classics. Didn’t someone do a creepy cover of Running Up That Hill? Like Marilyn Manson, or somebody?

Jobjoris > Jonee 12/12/2016 at 17:41

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Placebo you mean? Not creepy, just depressing. Utterly depressing...

And someone should tell that camera man how to actually hold the camera...

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/13/2016 at 15:21

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Yeah, that must be the one. It’s terrible. We’ll use the original.

Look at you, Mr. Photography, now criticizing others’ cinematography.

Jobjoris > Jonee 12/13/2016 at 17:41

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Well, I just don’t think this Chinese/Australian angle will catch on actually. It’s a bit tiresome. There’s a Dutch angle for a reason!

Jonee > Jobjoris 12/14/2016 at 01:29

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Haha. I agree.